AW: SPF reject von Outlook und Hotmail
Daniel
daniel at ist-immer-online.de
Mo Jun 27 20:44:32 CEST 2016
Hi Max,
danke für die Antwort, auch der Monster Header den ich bei outlook.com also OWA gesehen hatte hat diese IP drinnen.
Zudem wird nicht mal transparent der Grund mitgeteilt, weil mein Mailserver mitgeteilt hat, zumindest nicht im body, nur im header.
Nur ne schlichte "nicht zugestellt" Info. Und dann zum Versenden im OWA nen Captcha abfragen wegen Spam, und nach 4-5 versuchen
Konto vorrübergehend sperren wegen ungewöhnlicher Aktivitäten.
Gebe doch keine Handynummer zur Verifizierung an.
Allein deren SPF ist auch schon ne Zumutung mit gut 100 IP Bereichen mit mehrfach verschachtelten SPF Einträgen.
http://spf.myisp.ch/?host=outlook.com
Wundert mich, wieso dann eher wenige betroffen sind, und hier nicht entsprechend bekannt ist oder auch auftaucht. Im Internet hatte
ich andere Foren auch schon mal was gefunden gehabt mit der 25er IP im header.
Gruß Daniel
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Postfixbuch-users [mailto:postfixbuch-users-bounces at listen.jpberlin.de] Im Auftrag von Max Grobecker
Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2016 19:52
An: postfixbuch-users at listen.jpberlin.de
Betreff: Re: SPF reject von Outlook und Hotmail
Hi Daniel,
auf mich wirkt das so, als wenn Microsoft diese IP-Adressen schwachsinnigerweise intern für irgendwas verwendet und DEREN
SPF-Prüfung klingelt. Deine Prüfung scheint "pass" zu werfen, weil sie auch die 65.54.190.33 des bei dir einliefernden Servers
überprüft.
Die 25.152.0.54 taucht in einem Header auf, in der der Server "AM4PR07MB1586" namentliche Erwähnung findet, welcher wiederum
weiter oben als Received-Header im Hotmail-internen Netz nochmal auftaucht.
Erschwerend kommt hinzu, dass deine SPF-Prüfung vollkommen andere Header schreibt als die, die weiter unten (und damit früher
erzeugt)
in den Headern zu finden ist. Alles ziemlich obskur.
Ich denke, Microsoft hat damit ein weiteres Mal der ganzen Welt bewiesen, dass sie von Netzwerk und Mailservern
nur geringfügig Ahnung haben ;-)
Warum das allerdings bei dir zu einer Ablehnung führt ist weiterhin merkwürdig - denn optimalerweise sollte sich dein System
nicht an fremden Mailheadern orientieren um SPF-Prüfungen zu machen.
Ich habe jetzt aber auch keine direkte Idee, wo man da was verstellt haben könnte damit derartiges passiert...
Viele Grüße aus dem Tal
Max
Am 26.06.2016 um 21:26 schrieb Daniel:
> Received-SPF: pass (outlook.de: Sender is authorized to use 'hallo123test456 at outlook.de' in 'mfrom' identity (mechanism
> 'include:spf-a.hotmail.com' matched)) receiver=Server; identity=mailfrom; envelope-from="hallo123test456 at outlook.de";
> helo=BAY004-OMC1S22.hotmail.com; client-ip=65.54.190.33
> Received: from BAY004-OMC1S22.hotmail.com (bay004-omc1s22.hotmail.com [65.54.190.33])
> (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
> (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK))
> by server.ist-immer-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 952FA3316001
> for <daniel at ist-immer-online.de>; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:14:40 +0200 (CEST)
> Received: from AM4PR07MB1586.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com ([10.165.249.18]) by
> AM4PR07MB1586.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com ([10.165.249.18]) with mapi id
> 15.01.0523.019; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 19:14:33 +0000
> authentication-results: spf=softfail (sender IP is 25.152.0.54)
> smtp.mailfrom=outlook.de; ist-immer-online.de; dkim=none (message not signed)
> header.d=none;ist-immer-online.de; dmarc=none action=none
> header.from=outlook.de;
> received-spf: SoftFail (protection.outlook.com: domain of transitioning
> outlook.de discourages use of 25.152.0.54 as permitted sender)
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